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Sep 30, 10 Thanks for your reply, Rick!!! ARSA Jim
All I asked was to have one simple question answered, Rick, and you have answered it
for me - many thanks! I do not believe the tone of my previous note demonstrated the
least bit of either anger or upsetness. Sorry that you apparently took offense -
heck, I didn't even mention you by name! As previously mentioned, I had to be away
from ARSA for a couple of months over summer, so I happened to miss your "1000th
chart" previous note, where you explained that you are working off of handwritten
info that you jotted down as a listener to the live on-air countdowns so many years
ago. It's amazing that you saved 'em for all these years! It had never occurred to
me that anyone was actually entering chart data into ARSA using such source data -
my bad - DJs were certainly far from perfect at announcing all title/artist details
for new songs on-air. I do also know that the Buffalo area was never real big on
issuing printed lists, so you're also right in that you probably have the ONLY
remaining record of all of your vintage Buffalo-area surveys! Rick, I simply must
ask the occasional ARSA survey entry question, that's all - it's my main job here.
For over 6 years now, I've happily doublechecked/reseached/corrected/added label &
catalog info for every single 45 & album in ARSA, working just about every single
day at it. As such, I'm the point man for noticing/evaluating adjusting all details
of all songs from all newly entered surveys. Minimum key-in standards are a must,
that's all - within reason. So Rick, PLEASE keep entering in your future
handwritten lists just the way you have always been. You're right in that ARSA is a
cooperative, joint effort from all involved. You've personally volunteered just an
incredible amount of time/effort over the years to make ARSA much more complete,
and we'd be absolutely lost without yout contributions. Again, my apologies if I
angered you in any way - it's all good!   -Jim
Sep 28, 10 RE2:questing a K.A. Scott
Hi Jim...

  I understand your frustration!  For my part, when I have to enter an unknown
artist, I've always tried to research and enter the "most likely" artists, so that
you don't have to drive yourself nuts looking for the info.

  For the 1963 "Unknown Artist" who performed "If", I'd place my bet on Little
Caesar & The Consuls, who had a Canada-only hit by the title "If (I Found A New


  - Kenn.

Sep 28, 10 RE: The Dock Of The Bay ARSA Jim
Kenn, when Gary recently replied with his "keep posting ARSA algorithm problems" to
my request asking for what amounted to the exact opposite, I e-mailed him about it.
I explained why it was, in fact, not good policy, and told him that I felt a bit
undermined by his reply. Gary thought his "manual, one-at-a-time" fixes could still
be somewhat effective, without grasping this problem's massive scope. Gary said he
thought I was just having a bad day - I was not - my request was 100% based on
logic, not emotion. As the db maintainer, I happen to understand far more about the
severity of this algorithm problem than Gary does; just like Gary knows far more
about survey key-in than I ever will. After my correspondesnce with Gary, I
expected him to soon post a "clarification reply" on Chart Chat, but for some
reason he did not. To me, this continued the general ARSA member confusion about
this issue. So today, sure enough, I read still another "Kenn Bad Algorithm" post,
with you citing Gary's reply as your reason for doing so. Kenn, I don't blame you
for being mega-confused here. If I were you, I wouldn't know what to do, either!
The good news is that Tim, Gary & I are currently communicating, and are putting
our heads together to resolve not just the ARSA algorithm nightmare, but to also
address other ARSA system issues. We are also exploring other ways to have folks
like you notify Tim directly about future bad algorithms. After all, "Chart Chat"
is supposed to be about interesting CHART facts, not internal system problems, is
it? Kenn, you are a major ARSA contributor. Our Canada "go-to-guy", in fact! You
have personally spent many, many hours helping to build up ARSA. We'd be LOST
without your help! And because of this, this automatically means you will be
seerved pina coladas by supermodels in the afterlife for all eternity!!!!!! And you
and I are ARSA teammates. But Kenn, I have had major high blood pressure since I was
17 - it even kept me out of the military when I tried to volunteer, way back when.
Kenn, through no fault of your own, you somehow possess the ability to negatively
"push my health buttons". I am very low-key and easygoing, and get frustrated/angry
very, very rarely. Why your posts do this to me, I don't know. But they do. Kenn, my
wonderful Mary is asking a favor of you. Can you please help me try to live a longer
life with an "Kenn ARSA Chart Chat algorithm embargo?" I am dead serious here. If
you asked me to do you this same favor, I would do so in a heartbeat. Tim, Gary and
I are all doing our VERY best to fix things. Thanks for understanding, Kenn, and God
bless you and all ARSA folks everywhere!    -Jim
Sep 28, 10 Requesting a "fighting chance..!" ARSA Jim
Friends, starting earlier this year, some ARSA surveys started being entered in with
artist info being omitted, and (Unknown Artist) simply being typed in its place. Now
I know on occasion that an old survey with a worn crease can make a word(s)
illegible. And Kenn has said before that some early 1958 CHUM charts had only
titles shown; understood. But a single Canadian survey entered in earlier today has
SIX such examples, all with no artist. In the past, especially with scans attached,
I've had great luck as a detective piecing info together, but sadly, none of these
"Unknown Artist" surveys ever happen to include scans. It's been an absolute
miracle that I've been able to research my way to identify the
artists/label/catalog in all cases so far. Well, that ended today, because all I
have to work with is a song title of "If", from 1963. No chance here to even start
to research - just not enough info. To make it even worse for me, old Canadian 45
documentation is far worse than US 45 info is, which is what all of many research
books/documents reflect. I don't really understand why so many surveys are missing
this much key info? An explanation would be very appreciated, because no survreys
I've ever seen have ever had such gaps in vital info. In other news, I've finally
caught up on all the backlogged ARSA single/album entries I got behind on over the
summer. Thanks for your patience, and also for all the hard survey key-in work,
gentlemen!   -Jim    
Sep 7, 10 RE: How Do I Send Original Music Surveys To ARSA Website? K.A. Scott
It may take a day or two Kevin, but someone from this site (most likely Tim or Jim)
will get back to you with info.  In the meantime hang tight, and thanks for wanting
to contribute!


- Kenn.
Sep 6, 10 How Do I Send Original Music Surveys To ARSA Website? Kevin O'Donnell
I have a number of Top 40 music surveys from the Fox Valley area of Wisconsin from
late 1968 to 1970.  How do I upload these to your website?  Or should I send them
in U.S. mail for you to scan and upload (and then return to me)?  I can't seem to
find any link or mechanism on this website which addresses this.  Thanks for
anyone's help!

Kevin in N.C.
Sep 4, 10 Can't Add Survey Images Geno Rice
I can't upload survey images after the 1st time I add the new survey.  That is, the
1st time I add a survey, I can upload the image(s), but if I go and type in the
chart, then come back later, I can't upload an image.  I get error message:

Warning: unlink(): No such file or directory in
/home/warden/public_html/arsa/surveys_edit.php on line 310

Aug 26, 10 RE: Welcome back... ARSA Jim
Thanks, Kenn! Gimme a couple of weeks, and I should be all caught up
researching/correcting song titles/adding 45 label/catalog # info for all of the
more recently-added surveys. Then I'll start catching up on the ARSA "Albums"
section. Everyone's patience has been/is/will be appreciated.   -Jim 
Aug 26, 10 Welcome back... K.A. Scott
Hey Jim...

  I see you're hard at it, adding several hundred new records to the database. 
Great to have you back!


  - Kenn.
Aug 19, 10 RE: Run Out of Surveys to Type In K.A. Scott
Somewhere earlier in the thread, "tokensurfer" offered up his Denver charts, which
are archived on flickr.  Google  KIMN DENVER RADIO CHARTS TOKENSURFER to find 'em.

(I know, I know, Denver's not an East Coast city, but at least the charts are from
the 60s....)


- Kenn.
Aug 15, 10 Run Out of Surveys to Type In Geno Rice
Hi Folks,

I don't have much of a personal collection of surveys and the internet sources seem
to have dried up, so I've more or less run out of surveys to type in.

Would the folks with big collections be interested in sharing images so I and
others could help with typing chores?  Either upload your images and let me or
others do the typing, or email the images so other contributors could upload & type

I'm most interested in the 60's, New York State & New England.

Jul 14, 10 RE: Back to the grind later ths week... K.A. Scott
Hi Jim...

  Welcome back!  Glad to hear that all is well -- and I hope your pressing life
issues weren't *too* serious.  


  - Kenn.  



Jul 14, 10 Back to the grind later ths week... ARSA Jim
As some of you may have noticed by now, I haven't been able to perform any of my
normal ARSA daily maintenance duties for the past couple of weeks. All is well -
just other very pressing life issues. They're thankfully winding down, and I should
be back to my "normal ARSA self" any day now. Please be patient, as I'll soon be
catching up on adding all the usual ARSA tidbits for the most recently added
surveys.   -Jim  
Jun 22, 10 Mantovani.... ARSA Jim
My apologies to our always-amazingly-all-over-it, primary Canadian survey
contributor Kenn for my error in initially concluding that the 1959 albums
"Mantovani Showcase" and "All-Americsn Showcase" LPs were one the same. Further
research has determined that the "Mantovani Showcase" album was the first-ever LP
issued on London in both stereo and mono. To "celebrate" this fact, London
apparently chose to issue this particular LP using a special, unique inventory #,
that didn't correspond to the normal 1959 London LP numbering system, used both
before and after it. Instead, this initial London stereo LP # (which I've always
opted to use for ARSA purposes, as opposed to its often-differently-numbered mono
LP counterpart) is LP # "SS 1", which I will enter into ARSA as "London 1". Man,
tryin' to get inside the heads of these label execs, more than 50 years after the
fact, sometimes has me reaching for the Pepto.....    :)        Jim
May 15, 10 RE3: Phantom Stations and Duplications Tim Warden
Quite right!  I made the correction -- thanks!
May 13, 10 RE2: Phantom Stations and Duplications J. A. Theroux
I may have found one more: KGY is listed as 1240 AM and 550 AM, I believe the 550 AM
is incorrect.  The survey reads KGY Live 55 but I believe it is a reference to the
number of song titles on the survey and not its frequency.  I could not find any
evidence that KGY was ever on the 550 AM frequency.
Apr 17, 10 RE: Phantom Stations and Duplications Tim Warden
Thanks Jeff -- They've all the duplicate & phantom stations have been corrected.
Apr 14, 10 Phantom Stations and Duplications J. A. Theroux
I found 4 additional radio station duplications in ARSA - WBZ-FM 106.7 FM in Boston,
WKCI 101.3 FM in New Haven, WLAN 96.9 FM in Lancaster and WZZP 106.5 FM in
Cleveland.  I also found 2 phantom stations - KIXY 940 AM in Amarillo is actually
KIXZ, and WILS 890 AM in Chicago (there is of course WLS 890 AM in Chicago and WILS
1320 AM in Lansing, MI in the database).

Sorry for all the nitpicking,
Apr 3, 10 1,000 Stations Gary Pfeifer
 While maybe not as momentous as reaching the 10,000 survey mark (which is now well
on its way to 15,000!), we now have surveys from 1,000 different radio stations on
ARSA!  Thank you again to all for making this possible!

Mar 30, 10 Match Maker, Make The Right Match! Tim Warden
Hey Kiddies!  This evening I've flipped the switch on a couple of minor changes that
should enhance ARSA's ability to discern between, say...

Dock Of The Bay by Otis (1968) and his kids (1980)
Maybe I'm Amazed by McCartney (1970) and Wings (1976)
Cupid by Johnny Rivers (1965) and Johnny Nash (1967 and 1970)
She's Gone by Hall & Oates (1974 and 1976)

... and it shouldn't take the mis-titled "I've Got You" by James Brown and
mistakenly attribute it to Brown & Byrds' "You've Got To Change Your Mind".

I made the changes this last weekend and tested for a couple of evenings, and it
would appear that everything works as expected -- but of course, no guarantees
because it hasn't been pounded on by the ARSA SQA Team (the SPCA took our staff of
100 monkeys away a few months ago -- can't imagine why!).

One of the changes involved bracketing a song or album match to the year.  For
instance, if the song is listed in the database as 1974, it will only match to
surveys from [1973..1975].  That should handle 98% of the cases and correctly
resolve early charts (e.g. Nov or Dec 1973) and late charters (1975).  However,
there may be situations where a song or album re-charted several years after its
initial release... and perhaps with the same catalog number (I'm thinking
Aerosmith's first off the top of my head, but I'm sure there will be others you can
think of...) and those won't match because if the album came out in 1973 and
suddenly broke big in 1976... well, that's more than two years.  Perhaps in that
case Jim should simply create a second entry for the rebirth of said song/album --
I'll leave that to Jim's good judgement.

BTW, I've corrected the "I've Got You", "Amazed", "Dock of the Bay" problems.

Granted, there are almost certainly mismatches lurking... and I've not checked out
Led Zep, Chicago or Peter Gabriel albums lately... but perhaps you can simply
direct any of these types of anomalies you find directly to me for correction. 
Particularly if there is a mass correction to make, it will probably be a lot
easier for me than for Jim or Gary, as I can issue the SQL commands to make certain
changes "en masse".

I'm still amazed at how my pet "learn PHP and MySQL" project has blossomed -- best
wishes to all and thank you all for your contributions to this project!